<font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i get that way sometimes...ok a lot LOL... myself *g* I do believe that we like the music we do because it resonates with our soul and the closer the harmony of resonance, the more we feel connected to the music and enjoy it [img]smile.gif[/img] Just my private theory [img]wink.gif[/img]It is that way for me with some music, but with other music I am more emotionally attached to it. It is like a piece of me. It sort of reminds me of when I was a teenager and I really loved Duran Duran, and people at my school would call them all sorts of names. I would get so pissed off and so upset because it was not like they were insulting Duran, it was like they were insulting me. Some music is a part of me. Darren's music is a part of me. INXS music is a part of me. Depeche Mode's music is a part of me too. There is just a far deeper connection to them for me.
Can I just say that I think that it's a total non-event that some ppl say that they don't think that they're going to like TTATS (or even if they end up NOT liking it after they've actually heard it).
It's <u>only</u> music - It's not the end of the world - And their opinions really shouldn't matter to the ppl that DO like it. [img]smile.gif[/img]
That is where my opinion differs from yours Terry. I don't see this as only music. In fact, I am not so sure that many people do because if they did, would emotions be running this high? Would Barb be feeling the way she does? Would I feel as if people disregard me because I like Darren? For me, this is not only music.
<font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i get that way sometimes...ok a lot LOL... myself *g* I do believe that we like the music we do because it resonates with our soul and the closer the harmony of resonance, the more we feel connected to the music and enjoy it [img]smile.gif[/img] Just my private theory [img]wink.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree with you both because that's the way it is with me too. Music isn't just a random collection of noises, it's an entity that can affect you on the deepest emotional level. On a purely scientific level, how we hear and absorb music is connected to the limbic area of the brain where we also process all other emotions so it follows that music can affect us at the deepest level. Add to that various life experiences that may have been happening at the same time we receive those first chords of a particular piece of music and the two are inextricably intwined with each other.Originally posted by sunhawk:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It is that way for me with some music, but with other music I am more emotionally attached to it. It is like a piece of me. It sort of reminds me of when I was a teenager and I really loved Duran Duran, and people at my school would call them all sorts of names. I would get so pissed off and so upset because it was not like they were insulting Duran, it was like they were insulting me. Some music is a part of me. Darren's music is a part of me. INXS music is a part of me. Depeche Mode's music is a part of me too. There is just a far deeper connection to them for me.
The ancients used to talk about the harmony of the universe where everything had a rhythm to it and part of that becomes deeply ingrained in our psyches. Music can evoke all sorts of feelings and memories in us and in music that is special to us it becomes absorbed into our souls and becomes a part of us, of who we are. When we meet someone who shares that love then the bond becomes even more special.
SG and DH's music is special to me also because of the bond of friendship that has also formed between us and if it wasn't for Darren and his music in the first place, probably none of us would actually know each other, so it's also about community and kinship and all those wonderful feelings that can emmanate from that.
Janie xx
<font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*sigh* I just love reading your thoughts Janie [img]smile.gif[/img]The ancients used to talk about the harmony of the universe where everything had a rhythm to it and part of that becomes deeply ingrained in our psyches. Music can evoke all sorts of feelings and memories in us and in music that is special to us it becomes absorbed into our souls and becomes a part of us, of who we are. When we meet someone who shares that love then the bond becomes even more special.
<font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is very true Janie. That contributes greatly to why his music is so deep within me.SG and DH's music is special to me also because of the bond of friendship that has also formed between us and if it wasn't for Darren and his music in the first place, probably none of us would actually know each other, so it's also about community and kinship and all those wonderful feelings that can emmanate from that.
Janie xx
<font size="3" face="Tempus sans ITC, Papyrus,Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well said! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]Originally posted by DarrensPassion:
I agree with you both because that's the way it is with me too. Music isn't just a random collection of noises, it's an entity that can affect you on the deepest emotional level. On a purely scientific level, how we hear and absorb music is connected to the limbic area of the brain where we also process all other emotions so it follows that music can affect us at the deepest level. Add to that various life experiences that may have been happening at the same time we receive those first chords of a particular piece of music and the two are inextricably intwined with each other.
The ancients used to talk about the harmony of the universe where everything had a rhythm to it and part of that becomes deeply ingrained in our psyches. Music can evoke all sorts of feelings and memories in us and in music that is special to us it becomes absorbed into our souls and becomes a part of us, of who we are. When we meet someone who shares that love then the bond becomes even more special.
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I suspect it has to do with the fact that all music is a set of vibrations set to a certain rhythm and since all life as we know it is made up of vibrating molecules, music that we love may very well literally BE us because we vibrate in the same way, and the energy from the music is transfered into us from the air we breathe in and through our skin [img]smile.gif[/img] Being energized so subtly like that sounds pretty nice to me! ^_^
There is a theory that states that life itself started as a single note, rippling through the cosmos and moving the elements into patterns, songs we could say, of increasing complexity that we known as living organisms ^__^
I read this thread yesterday, then left. Then I came back, thought about the posts here and read it again today.
The thing is that I wonder if this isn't a topic that can't be over-analyzed. I like how Barb described herself as a musical whore. lol And I agree with Terry. It IS only music. But that doesn't lessen the important, irreplacable, place that music has in my life and in my soul.
To me, music simply is. It's there in my head. It's every where around me. It's not something that I sit and think about or try to put my finger on why it's there. It's simply there.
What I have a hard time with is this interweaving of the musician with the music. I mean, I realize that it IS interwoven. Without the musician and who they are, their life experiences, there wouldn't be music. But the musican isn't a part of my life. The music is.
I don't know if I can explain it. I play cds and go to shows, but until SG I never thought in terms of "loyality" or supporting the artist. I simply wove their music into my life at a fundemental level and never thought further. And when they moved into new musical realms (as all will do at one time or another), I either follow or I don't follow. If the new direction fits my life and my emotions of the moment, I follow. If not, I move on .......... just as they move on artistically.
So maybe I'm ......... I don't know what. I feel a bit shallow reading all the deep thoughts here. I have and will leave a given song or cd or even artist in the dust without a second thought if it no longer suits my spiritual/emotional needs. Because it IS just music and they're only a band or singer. And yet, their music will always be in my soul. I don't think about it. It just simply 'is'.
<font color="#9966FF" size="1">[ June 30, 2004 10:56 PM: Message edited by: Dyan ]</font>
It's an interesting dichotomy... the singer or the song? I've known musicians who completely dissociate themselves from their "material", perhaps because they have no hand in its conception and thus no personal connection to it. It shows, it definitely shows. They toss off the words like so many nursery-rhyme recitations, and it's obvious that authenticity has no place in their syntax.
And then there are artists who become very indignant and even insulted when you dare to suggest that their fans may be more interested in their physical attributes than in the content of their work.
But from my own perspective... I don't make a distinction between artist and song. To me they're one and the same. Songs (or the best of them, anyway) are channeled direct from the heart to the acetate. I believe you can gauge an artist's maturity and growth by the twists and turns of his lyrics, his willingness to experiment in different (often less ---forgive the pun---popular) forms, and his detachment from ego. That last part, I find, is often the most vital. When an artist has ceased to be caught up in pandering to other people's ideals, and begun to focus on his own personal growth, you know he's reached, or is beginning to reach, his full potential.
That often entails leaving some former admirers unhappily by the wayside.
Just my thoughts on the singer-not-the-song concept, and why there may be such intense debate on THIS particular artist's music. He polarises opinion. And he's deleted the word "compromise" from his vocabulary. Which is something I applaud. It's been a long time coming. [img]smile.gif[/img]
<font color="#9966FF" size="1">[ July 02, 2004 10:33 PM: Message edited by: bengalcat ]</font>
I dunno............ on one hand, I agree. People (I think) can tell the difference between honesty and calculated emotions. On the other hand, none of us can know what is in another person's heart or what they are thinking at a given time. To a large degree, I wonder if we don't end up hearing what we want in the music. Perhaps it's what is in our hearts that colors how the music affects us.
The thing is that we don't know what Darren may have deleted from his vocabulary. Or not deleted. But I don't know that it matters. John Lennon could have been sitting in the studio laughing at how guilable his fans were, but it wouldn't have changed how his music affected me.
BUT (going back to the first hand) perhaps he couldn't have created the music that affected me if he had been calculating and mocking.
*thinks for a time*
No............ to me, it's only about how the music affects me. I can't know what is in someone's head or heart, but I DO know how it impacts me.
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